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     Crank Shortening - Short Cranks

     I was pretty much oblivious to crank lengths and used to just accept whatever cranks were on a bike when I got it.  After I started having knee problems and pain, and switching to bents, I started looking into the issue of short cranks and doing some experimenting on my own.  Many other bent riders are going to short cranks, so I thought I would try as well and see if it helped my knee situation.

     I went from 175mm cranks down to 165 on my trike, because the 165s were all I could dig up on short notice.  The knee discomfort was lessened and I could spin a little faster, but not much else was noticed and it was still pretty hard work on steep hills with my average speed being about 5 to 7kph on the steepest ones.  I got a hold of some inexpensive (~$30 Cdn) Dino 152mm 42/34/24 cranks and put them on my trike.  The knee pain was almost completely extinguished, my average cruising speed increased along with my endurance, and my speed on the hills immediately went up to 11 to 13kph.  These effects were immediately noticeable the very next day, so this wasn't a matter of me slowly getting stronger or faster.  I was quite impressed and practiced spinning with them using clipless pedals.  I started putting the short cranks on all my bents, and rode almost 2000km with them, but when I went looking for still shorter cranks, I found they were very expensive and difficult to locate in any kind of variety in lengths under the 160mm mark.

     As I had a growing number of salvaged cranks, some with bolt-on rings, I decided to see if I could make myself some kind of a jig and shorten the cranks myself.

160's to 140170 to 145175 to 150
175 to 135   

 

     As I could buy 152mm cranks already, I decided I'd make my jig for 100mm to 155mm in 5mm increments.   I took a piece of ½" x 4" flat steel that was about 2 feet long, drilled a hole in the middle of it and welded half of a BB axle into it.  I made sure that the BB axle was perpendicular in both axis, and that it was rotated to the proper point that a crank would be centered over the steel bar.

     From the center hole, I measured out on one side to 100mm, and then marked it out to 150mm in 10mm increments.  On the other side, I measured out to 105mm, and then out to 155mm in 10mm increments.  So, I had all the lengths I wanted, on the centerline of the jig with the BB axle, laid out in halves on each side of the axle.  I center punched the marks, and drilled them out with a ¼" bit.  I planned to place the jig on the drill press table, put a ¼" bit into the chuck, then lower the bit down into whichever hole I decided to use.  Leaving the bit in the hole, I would clamp the jig firmly to the drill press table.  This accurately marks and holds whichever crank length I wanted to make, and all I would have to do is drill one crank, remove it from the jig, and put the other crank on it without ever having to reposition the jig or drill press table.

     This is one of the many sets of salvaged cranks I have, and it started life as a 175mm 48/38/28.  The pedal hole on the left crank arm was completely stripped because the previous owner had ridden it when the pedal was loose.  I wasn't sure what I could do with it at the time, but kept it anyway.  I'm glad I did :)  In the picture to the right, I have the left crank mounted on the jig's BB axle, where it can be tightened on with the standard crank bolt.  I have a number of old cranks like this that have wide enough arms to be able to drill new holes further down the crank arm.

     The procedure I used to shorten these cranks to 130mm is as follows:

  • I put the jig on the drill press table, and used a ¼" bit to line the jig up using the 130mm hole.
  • I made sure the drill press table was tightly clamped to the column, and then clamped the jig to the drill press table.  Using a combination square, I already know that my spindle is 90 degrees to the table both left to right, and fore and aft.
  • I placed the crank on the BB axle and tightened the axle nut to secure the crank on the jig
  • I put a ½" bolt, with a washer and nut, under the pedal hole, to act as a support while I drilled the hole.  This would stop the crank arm from being deflected downwards by the drilling pressure and screwing up the alignment of the hole.
  • I use a center drill to lightly mark the crank and then I check it one last time for center alignment on the crank arm.  It doesn't matter if it's not exactly at the crank length I wanted because both cranks will end up identical length anyway.  After the final check, I give it a good, deep centering hole for the drill bits to line up on/in.
  • Then I drilled a ¼"hole, and stepped it up to a 3/8" hole.  I stepped it up because I wanted to be cautious, and remove as little material per pass as possible to lessen the stress and pressure on the crank arm, which might effect the hole's alignment.
  • The final drilling step is to use a ½" bit.  While the proper pilot drill size for the 9/16" x 20TPI thread is 33/64", I didn't have a 33/64" drill bit, so decided to try it with a ½" hole instead.  It worked fine but I would be a little more cautious/leery of trying to remove so much meat in a steel crank though.  For steel, I'd likely just cut and re-weld the steel crank arms and make a jig that held the two crank pieces in proper alignment.  I know I keep switching cranks in the pictures, but for some reason I neglected to take a full series of pictures while doing one crank arm.
  • I put a dulled center drill into the drill chuck, put the tap handle on the tap, put the end of the tap in the pedal hole, then lowered the chuck until the dull point of the center drill was pressed firmly into the center hole in the shank end of the tap.  This would ensure that the tap would cut the thread perfectly in line with the drilled hole.  You can see the dulled center drill pushing down on the butt of the tap, while the end of the tap is firmly pressed into the new hole in the crank arm.
  • I used plain, old 3-In-One oil for cutting fluid, and kept steady downward pressure on the drill press handle, as I started cutting the threads.  I went slow because it was cutting extra meat due to the undersized pilot hole.  As a side note, the Park Tool taps say on the package that they are not intended to be used to actually cut threads.  The taps are not as sharp as other taps I have used, but they went through the AL with no problem and cut beautiful, clean threads just the same.  I would definitely splurge on a 33/64" bit if I was going to do steel cranks.
  • After doing the one crank, I took it off the jig and repeated the process for the other crank.
  • After threading both arms, I left ~7/16" meat around the new crank hole, and cut it off on the band saw.  A hacksaw works fine too because the end will be smoothed and contoured on a sander anyway.

     To the right is the end result after the finishing details and cleaning all the mud off them.  They're compared to a standard 175mm 48/38/28 crankset.  The old end sections are beside the 130mm cranks to show how much was removed - almost 1¾".

     The real test was to put them on a bent and try them out.  The first and most important thing, is that there is either a very, very small misalignment, or it's my clips.  Right now I can't quite isolate if there's an alignment problem or not because it feels pretty weird going down to 130mm cranks.  Even if the alignment is off a little, it is extremely slight, and two other people that tested them didn't even notice it.  I'll need to put some kilometers on the cranks and see how the power, speed and endurance compare to the 152mm cranks that I'm used to, and if these actually is an alignment issue, and how much of a pain it is.

     I have another set of cranks and I'm going to drill them to 140mm just so I have another length to compare with.  So, with nothing more than a small drill press and basic shop tools (and the Park taps, of course :)) anyone can shorten their own cranks.


16 Apr 2006

     We took the cranks for a number of test rides including a longer 15km ride.  The "wobble" or alignment issues I was concerned about were either nonexistent or so insignificant that they went unnoticed. They feel well aligned. So I'm pretty happy about that.

     As for their feel for pedaling, I'm not so happy.  My legs are pretty much used to riding a bent after many thousands of km over the last three years, switching to 152mm cranks a few thousand km ago, and I also don't mind overspinning in the 90 to 130rpm range (or higher if I run out of gears).  I think that should have had me pretty well prepared to try out the 130mm cranks.  The cranks seemed "too short".  It was really difficult to get into any kind of rhythm with them and very hard to feel like you could put good power down with them.  When I switched from the 175/165mm cranks to 152mm cranks, it felt a little different, but in the first hour of using them, they felt better - like an improvement and at the time, I still wasn't much of a spinner.  Going from 152mm cranks to 130mm cranks felt very weird, and after almost 2 hours of riding on them, they don't feel like they're "better".  In short, I don't like them.  Possibly I'm not spinning at high enough RPM with them, but even with high RPM, it still doesn't feel like you have the power or torque to do what you want to do, and even while spinning, I could feel my knees loading up when I was trying to get the power to the road.  They felt really crappy for climbing.  I switched back to 152mm cranks on the same bent, and went for a 4 or 5 km ride with some hills.  It felt like a relief to get back to the old length.  Granted, I'm used to that length, but I could accelerate and ride at speed comfortably on the flats, and I could spin and accelerate up hills far better than with the 130s.  It's not a complete loss because I can always use them on a bent for one of my little ones, but I think I'll try some 140mm cranks, as I mentioned above.  Maybe the 130s were too big of a jump from the 152s.  If the 140mm cranks don't work out much better, then I'll have another set of short kids' cranks and make the rest of the shortened cranks 150s.  The problem right now, is that you can't get 150mm cranks with removable rings - I can get around that now :) I also have a few Biopace sets that I'll try shortening and see how they work out.


3 June 2006

     I put the 130mm cranks back on the high racer and have been using them to commute and have close to 400km on them now.  There's a pretty steep hill on the way back and I definitely have to work a lot harder with the short cranks when I'm going up the hill.  The 150mm cranks were pretty good, but the 130's are definitely character builders.  I think part of the difficulty is that the largest cog on the cassette is only a 28, and with the 38 tooth chainring and 27" wheels, it's up near 37 gear inches for my lowest gear.  With a better gear range, or at least a 30 tooth cog, they'd likely be much better on hills.  In the mean time, aside from the grunt work on steep hills, they seem fine otherwise.  I might try some more 130's on a double chainring Biopace set I have and put those on my Catrike Speed.


23 June 2006

     With a little more than 1100km on the 130mm cranks, I am more than happy with them.  I managed to get a granny gear on the high racer so my low gear is now about 27 gear inches which is more than sufficient for hills now.  With that in mind, I decided to chop up my brand new 165mm Ultegras and turn them into the 130mm cranks they always dreamed of being. :)

     First thing to deal with, was the fact that the Ultegras used an Octalink BB, so I made a couple adapters to fit in the cranks and popped a ½" hole through the adapters.  I made them out of AL and faced off both ends of each piece so that the crank would be forced to sit perfectly aligned (or so I hoped) with the drill press table and spindle.  I also then needed to make a new jig for the Octalink cranks because I cleverly welded the BB piece into the other crank jig . . .  So, no problem, I used a short piece of ¼" x 2" flat steel, drilled a ½" hole in one end and drilled a bunch of small centering holes to allow me to set the proper crank length selection by using a center drill to line up the jig on the drill press table.  On this jig, I'd use the same basic procedure as for the normal square BB cranks, but I'd manually line up the center line on the cranks instead of the jig doing it automatically.  It was a little more nerve wracking to do it manually because I was concerned about how the cranks would "feel" if the holes were a little off center, and how much they would need to be off center for me to be able to feel it.  In the end, the cranks felt fine to use with both running shoes and my SPD's.

     The picture to the right is of the finished Ultegras at 130mm long.  The only thing I hadn't anticipated was that the Ultegras are "hollowtech" cranks so when I drilled the new holes, there was about an eighth of an inch of space between the two walls of the cranks.  I gave lots of meat between the new holes and the end of the cranks before I cut them off, and the aluminum was solid at that point.  When I installed the pedals, the pedal threads reached across that space and bit into the threads on the other side of the crank wall so I think I should be OK for the strength of the new holes.  Also, because A) I spin like crazy, and B) the short cranks have taken a bunch of my torque out of the equation, that should also take the load off the hollowtech holes.  At least, I hope :)  Time will tell and I'll check the cranks regularly.

 

     While on a roll, I took some old 170mm cranks and chopped them down to 145mm for use on a low racer project called the Nitro clone.  Again, the end result worked well enough to feel like they came that way.

     So the crank shortening is working really well with a very basic setup and either the jig and my setup is more accurate than I think it is (possible), or I have been extremely lucky 3 times in a row with the conversions (doubtful), or there are hole alignment issues but they are so small that I can't feel them, or the SPD's filter them out, or I am used to them already, or all 3 (highly likely).  Whatever the answer is, I am fairly confident in my ability to produce shortened cranks that are both comfortable and functional, and as of ~1200km of use, my poor, busted-up knees and ankles haven't complained yet about them.  Just about anyone, with a little patience, can shorten cranks for quite likely much cheaper than a "commercial" set.


21 Jan 2007

     In preparation for getting two more trikes up and ready for ice racing, I shortened two more sets of 170s down to 140mm.  The top set is a standard 130mm BCD spider, while the bottom set is, errr . . . was a 110mm BCD riveted triple crankset.  I drilled out the rivets, cut off the outer ring just outside the rivets and then oversized the rivet holes to accept the crank bolts.  The whole thing tool me about 15 minutes, max.  Much cheaper than buying a complete set of new cranks with removable rings.  The reason I took the rings off was because they were a 42/34/24 triple, which was too low geared for my projects, and the middle chainring was pretty badly worn anyway.  I'm going to mount a 62/40 ovalized double chainring on the bottom one but I have to use another 110BCD to 130BCD adapter on the top set if I want to use the oval rings I made.

     During a race, I found that I didn't have enough torque as I would have liked with the 130mm cranks, so I'm going to run some 140mm cranks for a while and see if I like the power production better.

Two sets of 140 cranks shortened from 170s.
 

07 Feb 2007

     I mounted up the 62/40 oval rings I made and gave them a good test at the Brantford ice races.  The cranks worked great, there was no flex in the modified spider and the holes were good enough that I couldn't notice any pedal wobble or misalignment.  My daughter raced the trike they were on so I didn't get to use them enough to see what a difference the 140's made compared to the 130mm cranks I'm used to.  Lots of time for testing later and I have a 48/38/28 triple with a stripped pedal hole to shorten to 140mm as well.

Update:  While the chainrings both worked fine, the pattern I cut seems to have weakened the big ring a little more than I would like and it feels to me like it might be too easy to bend if it was cranked on hard.  So, I'll take another ring of AL and make some kind of stiffener ring and rivet it to the 62T ring and that should solve the problems.  More on that when it's done.

The 62/40 ovals mounted on the 140mm cranks for the FRD ice racer.
 

28 Feb 2007

     These are the cranks that I used on the delta instead of the big oval set above.  These 170's had nice fat arms and one of the pedal holes was completely cross threaded and stripped.  A perfect candidate for shortening, yes? :)  Anyway, the shortening went off fine and in some test drives, they feel great. Smooth, no apparent alignment issues, and a perfectly good pair of cranks is brought back to life.

Newly shortened 140's to replace the 62/40T ovals on the Delta.

10 Apr 2008

     Took two sets of 160mm 53/39 double Dino cranksets and chopped them down to 140mm.  I would have liked them to be at least 25mm longer than the shortened final length, but they were all I could get on short notice.  The reduced torque and power output should still make them last every bit as long even though the thickness at the end is not as much as I would have liked.  They'll come in handy on any bent with a 24" or larger rear wheel.


1 May 2008

     For the Raptor 44, I took a pair of inexpensive MTB cranks with the intent of shortening them down to 145mm and replacing the rings with 59/48/32 10% oval rings.  To the right is the drilled cranks with the unfinished rings, just prior to trimming them down.  At the bottom is the finished cranks with the rings mounted.


Truvativ Elita GXP 175 to 150

20 Dec 2008

     A hard core off road recumbent rider from BROL was talking about shortening his cranks, but others seemed to think shortening cranks with "power tubes" or "X pipes" on them wasn't possible.  I convinced him it was possible, so he bravely sent his cranks to me to get shortened from 175mm down to 150mm.  I made up a few new Al adapters to fit the profile and ID of the Giga X-Pipe that Truvativ makes, added an XL threaded rod to my jig, and proceeded to get to choppin'.  To the right are the dual drilled cranks.  Cleverly I forgot to take a picture of the finished cranks, but maybe I can steal a copy of them on his offroad bent.

     Centre drilling the right crank after marking the hole position.  I put the left crank on the jig right after this so both cranks would have the holes at the same distance.
     Punching the 1/2" hole after centre drilling.  After this hole, I go right to the taps.
     I use a dull centre drill in the drill press, and push downwards while I rotate the tap.  The taps have a centre hole in their base and this method makes sure the taps follow the same path as the drill bits did, nice and straight.  A little bit of 3 In One oil helps the tap do its job.
     Last but not least, the left crank arm.  I even managed to almost completely save the Elita branding :)  It wasn't in the same place on both cranks, so the right side arm lost a little of the letter "A".  So there you have it, no muss, no fuss shortening of Truvativ GXP cranks.

Truvativ Isoflow 175 to 135

12 Feb 09

     Took another set of Truvativs and chopped them down to 135mm for my Black Max trike.  They're 5mm longer than what I'm using right now on my trike and highracer, and the slight length increase plus the oval rings might make my knees a little happier.  The small size also reduces the size of my thrashing feet in the pedal box, which is what I'm aiming for on the aero front, as well as anticipating a nose fairing in the future.


Chainring Adapter - 130BCD to 110BCD

     On my fancy new Catrike Speed, I quickly found that I ran out of gears with little effort on very casual downhill runs, so the search was on for a solution.  The Ultegra cranks came with a 52/42/30 set of chain rings so I went looking for bigger tooth count chainrings.  I found some Vuelta chainrings going right up to 60 teeth, and that was good.  But the big rings were 110mm bolt circle diameter (BCD) while the crank spider was 130mm BCD, and that's bad.  But I'm a never say die kind of guy and decided to make an adapter, and that's good, but I had no idea how the two BCD's would mesh nor what kind of design considerations I'd need to account for, and that was bad.  Plus, I was told by some bike shop "experts" that it was DEFINITELY not possible to make an adapter.  So, after that, I knew for SURE that I'd be making some adapters :)  Also, as I had just finished shortening my brand new Ultegra cranks to 130mm, I certainly wasn't going to buy a new set of 130mm BCD cranks and go through shortening them right away too.

     To start, I laid the 52T Ultegra ring on top of the Vuelta 60T ring to see what I was up against.  There was no way I could make some funky adapter to accommodate the holes the way they look in the picture, so I decided to rotate one of the chainrings 1/10th of a turn so the holes would be offset by 36 degrees. This would put the chainring spider in between the mounting tabs of the new chainring, and I hoped I would be able to make an adapter from there.
     I got some scrap pieces of .070" 7075 AL, and traced out 130mm and 110mm circles, and then marked out 10 lines from the center with 36 degree spacing.  I center punched and drilled the holes, 5 on each circle.  I trimmed the AL plate to a circle about 6" in diameter and then test fit the holes on the chainrings to make sure they lined up.  Amazingly, my layout was fairly close and I only had to do a little bit of hole filing on 3 or 4 holes to make the chainring bolts fit.  Lastly, I drilled a ¼" hole in the middle so I could bolt other blank adapters onto the adapter template and quickly transfer the holes to new adapters so I could skip the whole layout portion of the project.  I used .070" AL because it was a little easier to work with for the prototype than the .090" or .100" that I planned to use for the final version.
     The adapter disc, on the left, has check marks beside the holes with good fit, and arrows on the holes that needed a little filing.  I next traced out the shape of the chainring's bolt flanges to find out where I need to trim the adapter to so the 130mm BCD spider would fit it.  I also traced out the shape of the 110BCD ring so I could see how much I could trim off the adapter, mainly for cosmetics.  After connecting the traced areas, with hole saws and a jigsaw, I removed the center portion of the adapter and did so finish filing to fit the adapter to the crank spider and smooth up the saw marks.
     After all the filing and test fitting I mounted up the 60T ring with a 40T ring, threw the crank on the trike, repositioned the front derailleur and took it for a test ride.  With a 60/40 double ring instead of the stock triple, I still had 25 to about 110 gear inches which is more than enough low gear for me, and much better high gear than original.  The chain shifted up onto, and back off of the 60T chainring with no hesitation at all, which I was very happy about.  The spacing between the chainrings is probably around 1/8" right now and consists of a thin washer and the thickness of the adapter itself.  I was very happy with the adapter so I made a few more using .090" 7075.  The 7075 is very tough and very stiff.  The adapter is small enough and bolted close enough (apparently) that there is no twist or flex at all in the adapter or rings, even when I'm stomping on it pretty hard on an uphill.
     After the successful test-ride, and making some copies out of the thicker AL, I scuffed the adapter and the chainrings with a piece of Scotchbrite pad, wiped them off with some alcohol, and spray painted them flat black.  I'm slowly muting out the shiny/semi-shiny bits on the Speed.  As mentioned above, I decide to go to a 60/40 double instead of using a 60/42/30 triple as the 40T gives me enough of a low gear to spin up any hill I've come across so far.  You might be able to see some small notches in the inner edge of the 40T ring.  I filed those in because I initially thought that there would be interference issues with the chainring bolts and the 40T ring.  With the use of the small washers and the thickness of the adapter, there was no clearance problems at all.
     For the final set up, I mounted the adapter to the spider first.  I mounted the adapter to the back of the spider arms instead of the front because mounting the adapter to the front would have pushed the 60T chainring another .090" to the right and I didn't want any chain alignment or front derailleur range issues.  Mounting the adapter on the back side meant that the 60T chainring was .090" closer to the derailleur post which meant all that was required was a small adjustment to the derailleur stop screws and I was good to go.  I used a small washer under the head of each bolt to help compensate for the loss of a chainring's thickness otherwise the chainring bolts wouldn't hold the adapter tight.
     Here, both rings are mounted and tightened.  The chainring bolt that is directly behind the crank arm was mounted backwards with the nut on the crank arm side, and the Allen head bolt on the other side so I could tighten it.  The 4 other bolts were installed in the normal direction.
     To the right is the end result.  I've got about 300km on the new chainrings so far, and no flex, no loose bolts, no shifting problems, but lots more top end.

21 Sept 2006

     Here's an '06 Catrike Road with a 20" 350 Bionx on it and a 60/40 double with another 110 to 130 BCD adapter plate.


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