Crank
Shortening - Short Cranks I
was pretty much oblivious to crank lengths and used to just accept whatever cranks
were on a bike when I got it. After I started having knee problems and pain,
and switching to bents, I started looking into the issue of short cranks and doing
some experimenting on my own. Many other bent riders are going to short
cranks, so I thought I would try as well and see if it helped my knee situation. I
went from 175mm cranks down to 165 on my trike, because the 165s were all I could
dig up on short notice. The knee discomfort was lessened and I could spin
a little faster, but not much else was noticed and it was still pretty hard work
on steep hills with my average speed being about 5 to 7kph on the steepest ones.
I got a hold of some inexpensive (~$30 Cdn) Dino
152mm 42/34/24 cranks and put them on my trike. The knee pain was almost
completely extinguished, my average cruising speed increased along with my endurance,
and my speed on the hills immediately went up to 11 to 13kph. These effects
were immediately noticeable the very next day, so this wasn't a matter of me slowly
getting stronger or faster. I was quite impressed and practiced spinning
with them using clipless pedals. I started putting the short cranks on all
my bents, and rode almost 2000km with them, but when I went looking for still
shorter cranks, I found they were very expensive and difficult to locate in any
kind of variety in lengths under the 160mm mark. As
I had a growing number of salvaged cranks, some with bolt-on rings, I decided
to see if I could make myself some kind of a jig and shorten the cranks myself.
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I could buy 152mm cranks already, I decided I'd make my jig for 100mm to 155mm
in 5mm increments. I took a piece of ½" x 4" flat steel
that was about 2 feet long, drilled a hole in the middle of it and welded half
of a BB axle into it. I made sure that the BB axle was perpendicular in
both axis, and that it was rotated to the proper point that a crank would be centered
over the steel bar. From the center
hole, I measured out on one side to 100mm, and then marked it out to 150mm in
10mm increments. On the other side, I measured out to 105mm, and then out
to 155mm in 10mm increments. So, I had all the lengths I wanted, on the
centerline of the jig with the BB axle, laid out in halfs on each side of the
axle. I center punched the marks, and drilled them out with a ¼"
bit. I planned to place the jig on the drill press table, put a ¼"
bit into the chuck, then lower the bit down into whichever hole I decided to use.
Leaving the bit in the hole, I would clamp the jig firmly to the drill press
table. This accurately marks and holds whichever crank length I wanted to
make, and all I would have to do is drill one crank, remove it from the jig, and
put the other crank on it without ever having to reposition the jig or drill press
table. | |
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one of the many sets of salvaged cranks I have, and it started life as a 175mm
48/38/28. The pedal hole on the left crank arm was completely stripped because
the previous owner had ridden it when the pedal was loose. I wasn't sure
what I could do with it at the time, but kept it anyway. I'm glad I did
:) In the picture to the right, I have the left crank mounted on the jig's
BB axle, where it can be tightened on with the standard crank bolt. I have
a number of old cranks like this that have wide enough arms to be able to drill
new holes further down the crank arm. | |
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procedure I used to shorten these cranks to 130mm is as follows: - I
put the jig on the drill press table, and used a ¼" bit to line the
jig up using the 130mm hole.
- I made sure the drill press table
was tightly clamped to the column, and then clamped the jig to the drill press
table. Using a combination square, I already know that my spindle is 90
degrees to the table both left to right, and fore and aft.
- I placed
the crank on the BB axle and tightened the axle nut to secure the crank on the
jig
- I put a ½" bolt, with a washer and nut, under the
pedal hole, to act as a support while I drilled the hole. This would stop
the crank arm from being deflected downwards by the drilling pressure and screwing
up the alignment of the hole.
- I use a center drill to lightly mark
the crank and then I check it one last time for center alignment on the crank
arm. It doesn't matter if it's not exactly at the crank length I wanted
because both cranks will end up identical length anyway. After the final
check, I give it a good, deep centering hole for the drill bits to line up on/in.
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- Then I drilled a ¼"hole,
and stepped it up to a 3/8" hole. I stepped it up because I wanted
to be cautious, and remove as little material per pass as possible to lessen the
stress and pressure on the crank arm, which might effect the hole's alignment.
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- The final drilling step
is to use a ½" bit. While the proper pilot drill size for the
9/16" x 20TPI thread is 33/64", I didn't have a 33/64" drill bit,
so decided to try it with a ½" hole instead. It worked fine
but I would be a little more cautious/leery of trying to remove so much meat in
a steel crank though. For steel, I'd likely just cut and re-weld the steel
crank arms and make a jig that held the two crank pieces in proper alignment.
I know I keep switching cranks in the pictures, but for some reason I neglected
to take a full series of pictures while doing one crank arm.
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- I put a dulled center drill
into the drill chuck, put the tap handle on the tap, put the end of the tap in
the pedal hole, then lowered the chuck until the dull point of the center drill
was pressed firmly into the center hole in the shank end of the tap. This
would ensure that the tap would cut the thread perfectly in line with the drilled
hole. You can see the dulled center drill pushing down on the butt of the
tap, while the end of the tap is firmly pressed into the new hole in the crank
arm.
- I used plain, old 3-In-One oil for cutting fluid, and kept
steady downward pressure on the drill press handle, as I started cutting the threads.
I went slow because it was cutting extra meat due to the under-sized pilot
hole. As a side note, the Park Tool taps say on the package that they are
not intended to be used to actually cut threads. The taps are not as sharp
as other taps I have used, but they went through the AL with no problem and cut
beautiful, clean threads just the same. I would definitely splurge on a
33/64" bit if I was going to do steel cranks.
- After doing
the one crank, I took it off the jig and repeated the process for the other crank.
- After
threading both arms, I left ~7/16" meat around the new crank hole, and cut
it off on the band saw. A hacksaw works fine too because the end will be
smoothed and contoured on a sander anyway.
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the right is the end result after the finishing details and cleaning all the mud
off them. They're compared to a standard 175mm 48/38/28 crankset. The
old end sections are beside the 130mm cranks to show how much was removed - almost
1¾". The real test was
to put them on a bent and try them out. The first and most important thing,
is that there is either a very, very small mis-alignment, or it's my clips. Right
now I can't quite isolate if there's an alignment problem or not because it feels
pretty weird going down to 130mm cranks. Even if the alignment is off a
little, it is extremely slight, and two other people that tested them didn't even
notice it. I'll need to put some kilometers on the cranks and see how the
power, speed and endurance compare to the 152mm cranks that I'm used to, and if
these actually is an alignment issue, and how much of a pain it is. I
have another set of cranks and I'm going to drill them to 140mm just so I have
another length to compare with. So, with nothing more than a small drill
press and basic shop tools (and the Park taps, of course :)) anyone can shorten
their own cranks. | |
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Apr 2006 We took the cranks for a number
of test rides including a longer 15km ride. The "wobble" or alignment
issues I was concerned about were either non-existent or so insignificant that
they went un-noticed. They feel well aligned. so I'm pretty happy about
that. As for their feel for pedalling,
I'm not so happy. My legs are pretty much used to riding a bent after many
thousands of km over the last three years, switching to 152mm cranks a few thousand
km ago, and I also don't mind overspinning in the 90 to 130rpm range (or higher
if I run out of gears). I think that should have had me pretty well prepared
to try out the 130mm cranks. The cranks seemed "too short". It
was really difficult to get into any kind of rhythm with them and very hard to
feel like you could put good power down with them. When I switched from
the 175/165mm cranks to 152mm cranks, it felt a little different, but in the first
hour of using them, they felt better - like an improvement and at the time, I
still wasn't much of a spinner. Going from 152mm cranks to 130mm cranks
felt very weird, and after almost 2 hours of riding on them, they don't feel like
they're "better". In short, I don't like them. Possibly
I'm not spinning at high enough RPM with them, but even with high RPM, it still
doesn't feel like you have the power or torque to do what you want to do, and
even while spinning, I could feel my knees loading up when I was trying to get
the power to the road. They felt really crappy for climbing. I switched
back to 152mm cranks on the same bent, and went for a 4 or 5 km ride with some
hills. It felt like a relief to get back to the old length. Granted,
I'm used to that length, but I could accelerate and ride at speed comfortably
on the flats, and I could spin and accelerate up hills far better than with the
130s. It's not a complette loss because I can always use them on a bent
for one of my little ones, but I think I'll try some 140mm cranks, as I mentioned
above. Maybe the 130s were too big of a jump from the 152s. If the
140mm cranks don't work out much better, then I'll have another set of short kids'
cranks and make teh rest of the shortened cranks 150s. The problem right
now, is that you can't get 150mm cranks with removable rings - I can get around
that now :) I also have a few Biopace sets that I'll try shortening and see how
they work out. |
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3 June 2006 I put the 130mm cranks
back on the high racer and have been using them to commute and have close to 400km
on them now. There's a pretty steep hill on the way back and I definitely
have to work a lot harder with the short cranks when I'm going up the hill. The
150mm cranks were pretty good, but the 130's are definitely character builders.
I think part of the difficulty is that the largest cog on the cassette is
only a 28, and with the 38 tooth chainring and 27" wheels, it's up near 37
gear inches for my lowest gear. With a better gear range, or at least a
30 tooth cog, they'd likely be much better on hills. In the mean time, aside
from the grunt work on steep hills, they seem fine otherwise. I might try
some more 130's on a double chainring Biopace set I have and put those on my Catrike
Speed. |
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June 2006 With a little more than 1100km
on the 130mm cranks, I am more than happy with them. I managed to get a
granny gear on the high racer so my low gear is now about 27 gear inches which
is more than sufficient for hills now. With that in mind, I decided to chop
up my brand new 165mm Ultegras and turn them into the 130mm cranks they always
dreamed of being. :) First thing to
deal with, was the fact that the Ultegras used an Octalink BB, so I made a couple
adapters to fit in the cranks and popped a ½" hole through the adapters.
I made them out of AL and faced off both ends of each piece so that the
crank would be forced to sit perfectly aligned (or so I hoped) with the drill
press table and spindle. I also then needed to make a new jig for the Octalink
cranks because I cleverly welded the BB piece into the other crank jig . . . So,
no problem, I used a short piece of ¼" x 2" flat steel, drilled
a ½" hole in one end and drilled a bunch of small centering holes
to allow me to set the proper crank length selection by using a center drill to
line up the jig on the drill press table. On this jig, I'd use the same
basic procedure as for the normal square BB cranks, but I'd manually line up the
center line on the cranks instead of the jig doing it automatically. It
was a little more nerve wracking to do it manually because I was concerned about
how the cranks would "feel" if the holes were a little off center, and
how much they would need to be off center for me to be able to feel it. In
the end, the cranks felt fine to use with both running shoes and my SPD's. The
picture to the right is of the finished Ultegras at 130mm long. The only
thing I hadn't anticipated was that the Ultegras are "hollowtech" cranks
so when I drilled the new holes, there was about an eighth of an inch of space
between the two walls of the cranks. I gave lots of meat between the new
holes and the end of the cranks before I cut them off, and the aluminum was solid
at that point. When I installed the pedals, the pedal threads reached across
that space and bit into the threads on the other side of the crank wall so I think
I should be ok for the strength of the new holes. Also, because A) I spin
like crazy, and B) the short cranks have taken a bunch of my torque out of the
equation, that should also take the load off the hollowtech holes. At least,
I hope :) Time will tell and I'll check the cranks regularly. |
| While
on a roll, I took some old 170mm cranks and chopped them down to 145mm for use
on a low racer project called the Nitro clone.
Again, the end result worked well enough to feel like they came that way. So
the crank shortening is working really well with a very basic set-up and either
the jig and my set-up is more accurate than I think it is (possible), or
I have been extremely lucky 3 times in a row with the conversions (doubtful),
or there are hole alignment issues but they are so small that I can't feel them,
or the SPD's filter them out, or I am used to them already, or all 3 (highly
likely). Whatever the answer is, I am fairly confident in my ability
to produce shortened cranks that are both comfortable and functional, and as of
~1200km of use, my poor, busted-up knees and ankles haven't complained yet about
them. Just about anyone, with a little patience, can shorten cranks for
quite likely much cheaper than a "commercial" set. |  |
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| 21 Jan 2007 In
preparation for getting two more trikes up and ready for ice racing, I shortened
two more sets of 170s down to 140mm. The top set is a standard 130mm BCD
spider, while the bottom set is, errr . . . was a 110mm BCD rivetted triple crankset.
I drilled out the rivets, cut off the outer ring just outside the rivets
and then oversized the rivet holes to accept the crank bolts. The whole
thing tool me about 15 minutes, max. Much cheaper than buying a complete
set of new cranks with removable rings. The reason I took the rings off
was because they were a 42/34/24 triple, which was too low geared for my projects,
and the middle chainring was pretty badly worn anyway. I'm going to mount
a 62/40 ovalized double chainring
on the bottom one but I have to use another 110BCD to 130BCD adpater on the top
set if I want to use the oval rings I made. During
a race, I found that I didn't have enough torque as I would have liked with the
130mm cranks, so I'm going to run some140mm cranks for a while and see if I like
the power production better. | |
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| 07 Feb 2007 I
mounted up the 62/40 oval rings I made and gave them a good test at the Brantford
ice races. The cranks worked great, there was no flex in the modified spider
and the holes were good enough that I couldn't notice any pedal wobble or misalignment.
My daughter raced the trike they were on so I didn't get to use them enough
to see what a difference the 140's made comapred to the 130mm cranks I'm used
to. Lots of time for testing later and I have a 48/38/28 triple with a stripped
pedal hole to shorten to 140mm as well. Update: While
the chainrings both worked fine, the pattern I cut seems to have weakened the
big ring a little more than I would like and it feels to me like it might be too
easy to bend if it was cranked on hard. So, I'll take another ring of AL
and make some kind of stiffener ring and rivet it to the 62T ring and that should
solve the problems. More on that when it's done. |
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Feb 2007 These are the cranks that
I used on the delta instead of the big oval set above. These 170's
had nice fat arms and one of the pedal holes was completely cross threaded and
stripped. A perfect candidate for shortening, yes? :) Anyway, the
shortening went off fine and in some test drives, they feel great. Smooth, no
apparent alignment issues, and a perfectly good pair of cranks is brought back
to life. | | | | | 10
Apr 2008 Took two sets of 160mm 53/39
double Dino cranksets and chopped them down to 140mm. I would have liked
them to be at least 25mm longer than the shortened final length, but they were
all I could get on short notice. The reduced torque and power output should
still make them last every bit as long even though the thickness at the end is
not as much as I would have liked. They'll come in handy on any bent with
a 24" or larger rear wheel. | | | | | 1
May 2008 For the Raptor 44, I took
a pair of inexpensive MTB cranks with the intent of shortening them down to 145mm
and replacing the rings with 59/48/32 10% oval rings. To the right is the
drilled cranks with the unfinished rings, just prior to trimming them down. At
the bottom is the finished cranks with the rings mounted. | |
Chainring
Adapter - 130BCD to 110BCD On
my fancy new Catrike Speed, I quickly found that I ran out of gears with little
effort on very casual downhill runs, so the search was on for a solution. The
Ultegra cranks came with a 52/42/30 set of chain rings so I went looking for bigger
tooth count chainrings. I found some Vuelta chainrings going right up to
60 teeth, and that was good. But the big rings were 110mm bolt circle diameter
(BCD) while the crank spider was 130mm BCD, and that's bad. But I'm a never
say die kinda guy and decided to make an adapter, and that's good, but I had no
idea how the two BCD's would mesh nor what kind of design considerations I'd need
to account for, and that was bad. Plus, I was told by some bike shop "experts"
that it was DEFINITELY not possible to make an adapter. So, after that,
I knew for SURE that I'd be making some adapters :) Also, as I had just
finsihed shortening my brand new Ultegra cranks to 130mm, I certainly wasn't going
to buy a new set of 130mm BCD cranks and go through shortening them right away
too.
| To start, I laid the 52T Ultegra ring on
top of the Vuelta 60T ring to see what I was up against. There was no way
I could make some funky adapter to accomodate the holes the way they look in the
picture, so I decided to rotate one of the chainrings 1/10th of a turn so the
holes would be offset by 36 degrees. This would put the chainring spider in between
the mounting tabs of the new chainring, and I hoped I would be able to make an
adapter from there. | |
| I got some scrap pieces of .070"
7075 AL, and traced out 130mm and 110mm circles, and then marked out 10 lines
from the center with 36 degree spacing. I center punched and drilled the
holes, 5 on each circle. I trimmed the AL plate to a circle about 6"
in diameter and then test fit the holes on the chainrings to make sure they lined
up. Amazingly, my layout was fairly close and I only had to do a little
bit of hole filing on 3 or 4 holes to make the chainring bolts fit. Lastly,
I drilled a ¼" hole in the middle so I could bolt other blank adapters
onto the adapter template and quickly transfer the holes to new adapters so I
could skip the whole layout portion of the project. I used .070" AL
because it was a little easier to work with for the prototype than the .090"
or .100" that I planned to use for the final version. | |
| The adapter disc, on the left, has checkmarks
beside the holes with good fit, and arrows on the holes that needed a little filing.
I next traced out the shape of the chainring's bolt flanges to find out
where I need to trim the adapter to so the 130mm BCD spider would fit it. I
also traced out the shape of the 110BCD ring so I could see how much I could trim
off the adapter, mainly for cosmetics. After connecting the traced areas,
with hole saws and a jigsaw, I removed the center portion of the adpater and did
so finish filing to fit the adpater to the crank spider and smooth up the saw
marks. | |
| After all the filing and test fitting
I mounted up the 60T ring with a 40T ring, threw the crank on the trike, repositioned
the front derailleur and took it for a test ride. With a 60/40 double ring
instead of the stock triple, I still had 25 to about 110 gear inches which is
more than enough low gear for me, and much better high gear than original. The
chain shifted up onto, and back off of the 60T chainring with no hesitation at
all, which I was very happy about. The spacing between the chainrings is
probably around 1/8" right now and consists of a thin washer and the thickness
of the adapter itself. I was very happy with the adapter so I made a few
more using .090" 7075. The 7075 is very tough and very stiff. The
adpater is small enough and bolted close enough (apparently) that there is no
twist or flex at all in the adapter or rings, even when I'm stomping on it pretty
hard on an up-hill. | |
| After the succesful test-ride, and making
some copies out of the thicker AL, I scuffed the adapter and the chainrings with
a piece of Scotchbrite pad, wiped them off with some alcohol, and spray painted
them flat black. I'm slowly muting out the shiney/semi-shiney bits on the
Speed. As mentioned above, I decide to go to a 60/40 double instead of using
a 60/42/30 triple as the 40T gives me enough of a low gear to spin up any hill
I've come across so far. You might be able to see some small notches in
the inner edge of the 40T ring. I filed those in because I initially thought
that there would be interference issues with the chainring bolts and the 40T ring.
With the use of the small washers and the thickness of the adapter, there
was no clearance problems at all. | |
| For the final set up, I mounted the
adapter to the spider first. I mounted the adapter to the back of the spider
arms instead of the front because mounting the adapter to the front would have
pushed the 60T chainring another .090" to the right and I didn't want any
chain alignment or front derailleur range issues. Mounting the adapter on
the back side meant that the 60T chainring was .090" closer to the derailleur
post which meant all that was required was a small adjustment to the derailleur
stop screws and I was good to go. I used a small washer under the head of
each bolt to help compensate for the loss of a chainring's thickness otherwise
the chainring bolts wouldn't hold the adapter tight. | |
| Here, both rings are mounted and tightened.
The chainring bolt that is directly behind the crank arm was mounted backwards
with the nut on the crank arm side, and the Allen head bolt on the other side
so I could tighten it. The 4 other bolts were installed in the normal direction. |
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| To the right is the end result. I've
got about 300km on the new chainrings so far, and no flex, no loose bolts, no
shifting problems, but lots more top end. | |
| 21 Sept 2006 Here's
an '06 Catrike Road with a 20" 350 Bionx on it and a 60/40 double with another
110 to 130 BCD adapter plate. | |
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