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Tailbox #1

     I wanted to build a tailbox for my python for 3 reasons:

  • provide storage so I could eliminate a rack and saddle bags
  • act as a fender
  • possibly give a small aero benefit, but the first two points were the primary motivators

      Prior to some frame mods, I built a quick under-seat box to carry a few items when I used the python as a commuter.  It was made out of three pieces of coroplast, and zip tied together, and to the main backbone and the seat support.  I originally planned to open the right side by loosening some laces so I could load my gear from the right side.  After some more thought, I decided to put a quick release on the rear seat support and simply raise the seat to load my gear. It was much faster and worked perfectly.

     Not long after this picture, I had a high speed wipe-out and after that, there wasn't too much, from the pivot back, that still "worked perfectly" :)  Amazingly, the little coroplast box was still pretty much mint, but I had to rebuild the rear end of the bent, so the old box would no longer fit.

     So, fastforward about a week, and the new bent rear end is built.  I started by using a couple pieces of coroplast to build the front/lower storage section that would also support the sides.  The base is about 6" wide and 10" long, and the front and rear sections slope up and out to roughly meet the edges of the seat, at 14" wide total.  The plan was, to build the entire thing out of green coroplast to match the seat, 'cuz I'm ALL about aesthetics.  Unfortunately, it turned out hat I was "all about" not having enough green, and the store was "all about" being closed at the time, so I had to make the tailbox red instead.  C'est la . . . coroplast.

     The piece to the right will slip over the top of the rear wheel in the shape of an inverted U, will connect to the front section, and form the insides of the rear/upper storage.  The square hole was cut so the seat support would go through and connect to the seat.  I will tilt the seat up to load this tailbox too.  I used a machinist's awl to poke the zip tie holes, and a utility knife to cut the panels.  Poke the holes from the outside in, becuase the coroplast turns white around the holesand that way the white stretched areas will be hidden on the inside.

     The U-shaped piece is zip tied to the front section and I cut one side of the coroplast so that it would form a neat, relatively sharp 90 degree corner where I wanted to bend it.  At this point, I should mention it makes it much easier if you take a little time to plan what you want to do and orient the hollow "grain" of the coroplast so it runs parallel to any long bends you need/want to make.  Also, when zip tieing the panels together, whenever possible, try to get the zip tie around one of the coroplast's little "walls" that form the sides of the internal hollow tubes.  The plastic is actually fairly tough and pretty rigid once you get the zip ties around these little compartment "walls".  If you just use the upper and lower skins of the coroplast instead of hooking a "wall" too, the zip ties will likely pull loose eventually by ripping the plastic skin.  So, for the green front piece I oriented the grain perpendicular to the bent's center line so I could bend the corners.  The rear section had the grain running fore and aft, again, so I could make nice neat bends.

Confusing enough?? Excellent!  Onward then! :)

     These two panels are the sides of the tailbox.  The grain is running parallel to their long side because I'll be putting a small bend in them to make the transition from angling up to meet the seat base, and then later to running even with the seat's side.  More on that in a bit . . .
     Here, the sides are zip tied on to the lower front section.  I added small rectangular pieces to form the floor of the upper rear storage sections that are about 3" x 12", but they are hidden behind the side panels at this point.  When I was lining up the side panels initially, I found that two XL coffee cups were exactly the right height to hold the panels in the right spot so I could quickly trace the contour of the seat frame.  Here, the tailbox is looking rather Batman-esque, but I planned to have a rounded rear end to form the rear part of the fender and tailbox.
     This is the final shape of the tailbox's rear end.  I thought that the rounded look fit the python better than the Batman-style-ear-looking-thing.  You can see the line running down the side of the tailbox where the angled lower section gets bent, and then goes straight up, in line with the sides of the seat, as mentioned.  That bend line was why I didn't choose to bring the sides of the tailbox back to a nice point behind the rear wheel.  Trying to do that would have flexed the tail box sides in all kinds of ways and would have produced some fairly hideous "pregnant guppy" bulges in the side panels.  Another thing I was trying to accomplish with this tailbox, was that I wanted to be able to lift the entire tailbox off the bent, without having to disassemble it.  The last piece left to put on is the top of the tailbox that will curve down and to the rear, forming both the top and the rear part of the fender and hold the sides together.  I used a 26" rim to produce the radius on the side panels.
     Here's the completed tailbox.  I used about three 24" x 48" pieces of coroplast, with a bunch of off-cuts left over.  The top section was zip tied at the front, and as I bent it down and over the back, I used my lovely wife's hair dryer to soften the coroplast so it would bend easier.  The grain for the top piece runs from side to side because I doubt I would have been able to bend it against the grain, even with a hair dryer.  You can see the upper rear storage sections, and the opening in the middle will be closed off with a small piece of coroplast.  The whole thing mounts and dismounts by simly undoing the quick releases on the seat.  I used three zip ties around the lower front frame of the python to hold the front of the tailbox down.  The rear section is tight enough that it holds itself in place with no rattling or vibration at all.
     The completed tailbox is mounted on the bent.  The only thing left to do now is trim the bottom of the side panels a bit.  I want to get access to the quick release on the 20" rear wheel, so instead of the bottom edge being parallel to the ground, it will angle up and to the rear, slightly.
     The tailbox is trimmed and zip tied onto the bent.  I'll go get some red duct tape and run some tape along the edges to clean up the joint and hide some of the zip ties.  You can see the zip tie pattern of the inner structure.  Sort of looks like a Frankentailbox.  I could have done something cool and aero with the front of the lower section, but that would have actually required some ability, so it is the way it is :)

     Overall, I'm pretty happy with my first official tailbox.  It holds more than what I wanted it to, it's quiet and gives the bent a sort of retro look, I think.  I might see if I can't paint it black to match the rest of the bent.  If the paint isn't sticking well, I'll make new sides nad top out of either green or black to make it match better.  Total cost was maybe $20 Cdn in coroplast and maybe about 70 small zip ties.  It's much stiffer than I thought it would be, and it's lighter than a fender, rack and saddle bags combined.  I think I'll be making a few more.

     Last thing to do is mount a tail light and run a flag mount out the back for visibility.

     I spray painted a scrap of coroplast, and the paint seemed to stick really well to it, so I decided to do the whole thing.  I used flat black so it would hide repair touch-ups better than the gloss black.  I access the storage by undoing a quick release on the seat back and simply hinge the seat up.  I've got a little over 100km with it now, and there is no drumming, or rattling and it's only held on with 2 zip ties.  Very happy with it.

Python with seat down.

Python with seat up to access the storage areas.


Catrike Speed's Tailbox

14 July 2006

     I finished building a new tailbox for my Catrike Speed.  While aero benefits were a bit more of a consideration than with the python, #1 was storage, then fender functionality, and lastly aerodynamics.  After installing the tailbox, my friend on his Python said he got just about nothing anymore while drafting me.  I still need to tape some yarn to it to do a little ad-hoc tuft testing and see how it's performing.   A little notch was cut in the edge of the lid to allow the flag pole to exit.  Full details here.

Tailbox prior to lid and painting.
Tailbox from the rear looking down into the stroage under the seat mesh.
Tailbox finished and painted.

Raptor 74 Tailbox

10 May 2008

     Tailbox time for the Raptor so I don't need to ride the highracer with the backpack and I don't need to cram everything in the Speed's tailbox (which is getting too small).  Plus, the Raptor is so much faster than both the other two bents.  So, criteria:

  1. Must have more room than Speed's box and the old Python's box
  2. Obviously, must act as rear fender
  3. I want it to come out to shoulder/elbow width and see if it'll provide a little better aero profile while giving me the extra space that I wanted for point #1

     First things first and I need the supplies in the form of my pile of coroplast (~6mm) and a thousand zip ties, little ones.  The coroplast amounts to two 4' x 8' sheets plus some smaller odds 'n sods.

     I used two pieces of .040" 2024 AL and bolted them to the tops of the chainstays using the tabs I included during bike fabrication.  I'm going to use the homemade anchor nuts and the ¼" thumbscrews so the tailbox will go on and off without any tools or tailbox disassembly.  I welded ¼" nuts to some small pieces of 1/16" mild steel, and will rivet those to the underside of the AL plates once I decide where the hold-down bolts for the tailbox need to be.

 

     Basic height and width of tailbox front.  Bottom edges will be trimmed in later when a better idea of the final shape is reached.  The width and height is equal to my shoulders while the lower area where it starts to angle in is where my elbows are.

 

     Cargo area floor pieces.  They're sitting on the AL plates right now, but I'll screw them down when it's finished.
     The cargo floor pieces also form the shape of the tailbox sides.  I got the arc by simply bending a piece of coroplast and tracing the curve.  I'll have a flat back on the box to limit the length for transport ease.
     The inner cargo walls and top section form the fender.  It's tall enough to clear the top of the tire by about an inch.  I plan to use the opening at the front of the fender as a type of lock for the front of the top so I only need one fastener at the back of the lid to keep it down.  We'll see how that goes :)
     This is where things get a little dodgy.  The side panel was trimmed to roughly match the contour of the seat sides, and I'm running it back and clamping it so I can find out where I need to trim the lower skirt.  I think I can manage to make the side sections out of one piece with a pie shaped cut to let it form the curve and meet at the rear end.
  
     There will definitely be more tailboxes, and hopefully some nose fairings, splitter plates and maybe even a full body or two.  Details when they are built . . .

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